Letter to the Editor: Give us your masses

Letter to the Editor

Letter to the Editor

Patrice Franklin, Wichita Falls

In John Jay’s July 25th, 1787, letter to his close friend, George Washington, he wrote, “Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admissions of foreigners into the administration of our national government any but a natural born citizen.”

Jay was not referring to the geographic location or he would have said “native born.” That debate can come on another day. Besides, this was not a legal document. It was a concerned conversation between visionaries.

The United States borders would expand in the decades to come, anyway.

Since the Constitution was composed between May 25 to Sept. 17, 1787, Jay, a founding father, was expressing his wisdom — troubleshooting before our most sacred document was signed, sealed, delivered.

Not a living document that can be changed on a whim, but a solid foundation in which to build this unique nation. One rooted in God.

I “face-lifted” (Facebook) a photo from a friend’s page. It was of hundreds of foreigners brazenly crossing our border at the Rio Grande Crossing at Texas.

Pouring across our border as if there was a welcome sign written in Spanish.

That, coupled with the hordes of illegal, unaccompanied children as young as 3 streaming in, makes it obviously clear that this is the work of our statist president. However, we are deemed heartless if we speak up.

The talking heads on the left call them undocumented immigrants and even refugees. On the right, they are blaming Obama’s DREAM Act and feeling pressured to rush in and hastily vote on an immigration bill.

Let us borrow the fortitude of our founders, staying prayerful, fixed and focused.

Obama’s goal is far reaching and long range.

To fundamentally change our country where residents are government dependent, ones who will not assimilate, that could care less about our Constitution or the sacrifice and vision of our founders. Only loyal to the federal government that feeds them, houses them, tells them what to do. Ironically, their lives will not change for the better.

We simply have to strengthen our borders and honor our history. We can be the exceptional nation once again.

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joeleethree writes:

This sounds like the Canadian/Cuban senator from Texas would be unable to be president! At last we agree on something, Patty!

Eagle7 writes:

[YAWN] -I could have flipped your script for you threetoejoe! Stick to the subject-although that seems to be impossible. Ted Cruz was very much a American citizen at birth. But, your little distraction will backfire , your President will hopefully be impeached someday and maybe then we will get his real birth certificate. Obama is an Indonesian citizen anyway, was legally adopted by his stepdad. But go ahead and call Barry a liar.

So , answer this, Joe-while you are riding that train off a cliff with your leader like a good drone-why are there hundreds of illegals, children without their parents, gang bangers, drug lords, coming across our borders , brazenly, in broad daylight? They got the green light from our President. America is the headless horseman. Cruz-West 2016

tellingitlikeitis writes:

Great letter. It's past time to stop Obama madness and seal our borders. Ship every illegal lawbreaker back, and this time across the ocean so any return would be impossible, and please don't let the door hit you on the backside as your leaving.

Trapper writes:

Well, I just read that with all the trouble in Iraq, that the USS George HM Bush has entered the Persian Gulf. Just goes to show you, when Obuma fails, you have to send in a Bush.

joeleethree writes:

in response to Eagle7:

[YAWN] -I could have flipped your script for you threetoejoe! Stick to the subject-although that seems to be impossible. Ted Cruz was very much a American citizen at birth. But, your little distraction will backfire , your President will hopefully be impeached someday and maybe then we will get his real birth certificate. Obama is an Indonesian citizen anyway, was legally adopted by his stepdad. But go ahead and call Barry a liar.

So , answer this, Joe-while you are riding that train off a cliff with your leader like a good drone-why are there hundreds of illegals, children without their parents, gang bangers, drug lords, coming across our borders , brazenly, in broad daylight? They got the green light from our President. America is the headless horseman. Cruz-West 2016

Patty, does cesarean birth count as natural born? It seems entirely unnatural to me since knives are involved. I ask because that's how the Canadian/Cuban senator from Texas was born…in Canada. Why hasn't your boy Raphael renounced his Cuban citizenship like he did his Canadian one? It's all so confusing and American does not appear as part of the equation. If he did get the nomination, why in the world would he pick a one term wonder like West as his running mate? He brings nothing to the table. I don't know, Patty, but it seems your dream ticket is in deep (You know what!).

joeleethree writes:

in response to Trapper:

Well, I just read that with all the trouble in Iraq, that the USS George HM Bush has entered the Persian Gulf. Just goes to show you, when Obuma fails, you have to send in a Bush.

That's the first bush that wasn't a real shrub.

Citizen1 writes:

Disturbing LTE

joeleethree writes:

in response to Citizen1:

Disturbing LTE

The sad part is she has really no idea how racist she is.

JimD writes:

in response to joeleethree:

The sad part is she has really no idea how racist she is.

Oh I bet she knows - As she hide behind the conservative mantra

JimD

sunny writes:

in response to joeleethree:

The sad part is she has really no idea how racist she is.

Just exactly what part of "illegal" don't you get?

You and C1 hide behind the word "racist" when you have absolutely nothing intelligent to say. Try another avenue for a change. The racist gig is getting really old.

outhousepoet writes:

It's simply the newer version of Manifest Destiny, only we don't, no, can't accept the obvious.

How'd that work for the human beings that occupied North America, which by the way, were Native Americans and Mexicans in our general area?

Best not to ponder that for too long.

joeleethree writes:

in response to outhousepoet:

It's simply the newer version of Manifest Destiny, only we don't, no, can't accept the obvious.

How'd that work for the human beings that occupied North America, which by the way, were Native Americans and Mexicans in our general area?

Best not to ponder that for too long.

Patty forgot the part about "As ye sow, so shall ye reap".

Eagle7 writes:

in response to joeleethree:

Patty, does cesarean birth count as natural born? It seems entirely unnatural to me since knives are involved. I ask because that's how the Canadian/Cuban senator from Texas was born…in Canada. Why hasn't your boy Raphael renounced his Cuban citizenship like he did his Canadian one? It's all so confusing and American does not appear as part of the equation. If he did get the nomination, why in the world would he pick a one term wonder like West as his running mate? He brings nothing to the table. I don't know, Patty, but it seems your dream ticket is in deep (You know what!).

So-you are saying that only long standing Congress members should run for higher office. You are just against West because he is black. ;) (see how silly that sounds) OK-distraction over-why all of a sudden are we having hoardes of illegals stream across the border in broad daylight?

tx4deer#305254 writes:

"A bad poem on an old French statue does not make an immigration policy." U.S. population 1954: 160 million; in 2014: 320 million; in 2050 as projected by the census bureau at current "legal" immigration rate: 435 million, with 82% of that projected growth due to mass immigration. Clearly, we are not able to solve the world's problems by attempting to absorb other nations' excess population. Our population is already beyond the carrying capacity and sustainability of our habitat. Our environment, economy, political system, freedom, and quality of life are threatened by rampant mass immigration..... “In this country, it's phony to say 'I'm for the environment but not for limiting immigration.' However, the subject has been driven out of public discussion because everybody is afraid of being called racist if they say they want any limits on immigration." Gaylord Nelson (1916-2005) Democratic Senator and Father of Earth Day.

Eagle7 writes:

in response to outhousepoet:

It's simply the newer version of Manifest Destiny, only we don't, no, can't accept the obvious.

How'd that work for the human beings that occupied North America, which by the way, were Native Americans and Mexicans in our general area?

Best not to ponder that for too long.

The first native Americans were Chinese on the west coast.

We are founded on the Constitution. We simply have to have order and laws. Civilizations have disappeared because of lawlessness. We helped the indians-not perfect-but their tribes have continued and family heritage . Do you suppose that mexico and other South American countries just strolled in and set their boundaries without conflict. It is pretty ridiculous to use the " we. stole their land so they have a right to invade us" debate.

joeleethree writes:

in response to Eagle7:

The first native Americans were Chinese on the west coast.

We are founded on the Constitution. We simply have to have order and laws. Civilizations have disappeared because of lawlessness. We helped the indians-not perfect-but their tribes have continued and family heritage . Do you suppose that mexico and other South American countries just strolled in and set their boundaries without conflict. It is pretty ridiculous to use the " we. stole their land so they have a right to invade us" debate.

"We helped the Indians" Are you kidding me?

tellingitlikeitis writes:

in response to Citizen1:

Disturbing LTE

You better believe it's disturbing,and what's more disturbing is how American haters like you support illegal immigration and are against sending illegals back across the border or somewhere to the end of the world where they can't come back. that's what's disturbing. this country is so watered down with multiculturalism and illegal immigrants we don't even know who we are anymore. we're closer to resembling a third world country than any America I grew up in.

Eagle7 writes:

Yes we did help the Indians! And especially now. Indians attacked white settlements too. Indians migrated all over the place. So they actually didn't own the land.

Citizen1 writes:

Dear Native Americans

Please diregard the poster who goes by the name of Eagle7. She only represents a small fringe of the population.They also think we did Africa-Americans a favor by enslaving them. Most educated Americans understand the history of this country.

Eagle7 writes:

Oh-I forgot that "Indian" is a cuss word now but I was totally unaware that we say "afro-American" instead of "black" .Since we now call Hispanics "white" (i.e. Zimmerman and police scanners) I guess we can call the illegals "white-Non-American Currently".

Once again-why are we getting crowds of people streaming over our southern border?

wrencher writes:

in response to Eagle7:

Yes we did help the Indians! And especially now. Indians attacked white settlements too. Indians migrated all over the place. So they actually didn't own the land.

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me. I really can't believe you are that stupid to believe that. Only thing we helped the Indians do was die, either from war or the diseases we brought with us to the new land. They attacked white settlements too? What were they supposed to do, roll over and play dead and just give you everything?

Eagle7 writes:

Wrencher-if you want to make a logical point-leave personal insults aside-that only Speaks to your lack of character.

JoeFriday writes:

in response to wrencher:

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me. I really can't believe you are that stupid to believe that. Only thing we helped the Indians do was die, either from war or the diseases we brought with us to the new land. They attacked white settlements too? What were they supposed to do, roll over and play dead and just give you everything?

You act surprised.

outhousepoet writes:

in response to Eagle7:

The first native Americans were Chinese on the west coast.

We are founded on the Constitution. We simply have to have order and laws. Civilizations have disappeared because of lawlessness. We helped the indians-not perfect-but their tribes have continued and family heritage . Do you suppose that mexico and other South American countries just strolled in and set their boundaries without conflict. It is pretty ridiculous to use the " we. stole their land so they have a right to invade us" debate.

No, the Mexicans and Native Americans were in a constant state of war, raiding each other was part of survival.

My point is that a couple hundred years ago those human beings were probably annoyed by the influx of the whiteys, but never contemplated it ending like it did.

But, you know, the whiteys just couldn't be stopped.

Progress

Eagle7 writes:

in response to wrencher:

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me. I really can't believe you are that stupid to believe that. Only thing we helped the Indians do was die, either from war or the diseases we brought with us to the new land. They attacked white settlements too? What were they supposed to do, roll over and play dead and just give you everything?

As I said-Indians migrated. They followed the buffalo. The white settlers-farmers homesteaded. They planted crops , fought droughts, floods etc. Minding their own business and were slaughtered, wifes raped. , children kidnapped. Farms burned down. As outhouse so aptly put it they fought each other before we came . Not over land-probably for buffalo-or bragging rights.

Yes-the governing sources put them on reservations. And have made slaves out of them ever since. I bet native americans vote democrat too!

If you think that the forefathers gave them disease on purpose-you are wrong.

JimD writes:

Eagle eye - I don't know how in the world you figure that the Chinese were in America first before Indians/Native Americans?

Please explain yourself - credibility at stake.

Eagle7 writes:

Jim-when have you ever said I was credible. Artifacts were found on the west coast that dated much farther back than the migration of Indian tribes from Canada, or south. Some of the artifacts were bones....

Abram writes:

in response to Eagle7:

Oh-I forgot that "Indian" is a cuss word now but I was totally unaware that we say "afro-American" instead of "black" .Since we now call Hispanics "white" (i.e. Zimmerman and police scanners) I guess we can call the illegals "white-Non-American Currently".

Once again-why are we getting crowds of people streaming over our southern border?

Well Ms.Eagle, I guess those folks that are streaming over the border just wants a piece of the American dream and a chance to get an education. This all sounds well and good for them, but we will have to raise everybody's taxes to high Heaven to pay for everything.

Eagle7 writes:

Abram-your posts always make me smile! I guess the American Dream is cradle to grave government entitlements. Food-house-cell phones-gas-maybe even cash for clunkers again. A Statist would be proud....Constitution? We don't need no stinkin' Constitution!

Eagle7 writes:

Moliere, I believe that you live in your own world and that you are your biggest fan. But thank you for your input.

wrencher writes:

in response to Eagle7:

As I said-Indians migrated. They followed the buffalo. The white settlers-farmers homesteaded. They planted crops , fought droughts, floods etc. Minding their own business and were slaughtered, wifes raped. , children kidnapped. Farms burned down. As outhouse so aptly put it they fought each other before we came . Not over land-probably for buffalo-or bragging rights.

Yes-the governing sources put them on reservations. And have made slaves out of them ever since. I bet native americans vote democrat too!

If you think that the forefathers gave them disease on purpose-you are wrong.

You are so far out of touch with reality that you should seek help. First, minding their business comment. I find it almost amusing that you think the Indians were the only ones who raped and slaughtered. It would be funny if it wasn't so sickening. Lets just say for the sake of argument that the Koreans landed here and decided they were going to take the land and its riches for its own and if you, being the white people, didn't like it they would kill you or worse yet, put on Government land and feed you lots of whiskey to placate you. What would you do? The exact same thing the Indians did. They fought for what was their land but were just outnumbered and outgunned. The white man slaughtered and raped the Indians just as much, if not more, then the Indians did to them.

The comment about them voting Democratic is just so stupid it doesn't even need to be discussed. I doubt most of them vote anyway because they have seen first hand how the government works for them.

As for the final comment, I never said they gave them diseases on purpose, but it happened. Thousands of native North and South Americans lost their lives due to measles, small pox etc. that they had never seen until the white man came here. I think only our Government gives people diseases on purpose to study the effects of it. Of course you will deny that ever happened too.

The only revenge the Indians have been able to get since the near Genocide has been the casinos. They are bleeding people out of their money so fast. lol

Eagle7 writes:

in response to wrencher:

You are so far out of touch with reality that you should seek help. First, minding their business comment. I find it almost amusing that you think the Indians were the only ones who raped and slaughtered. It would be funny if it wasn't so sickening. Lets just say for the sake of argument that the Koreans landed here and decided they were going to take the land and its riches for its own and if you, being the white people, didn't like it they would kill you or worse yet, put on Government land and feed you lots of whiskey to placate you. What would you do? The exact same thing the Indians did. They fought for what was their land but were just outnumbered and outgunned. The white man slaughtered and raped the Indians just as much, if not more, then the Indians did to them.

The comment about them voting Democratic is just so stupid it doesn't even need to be discussed. I doubt most of them vote anyway because they have seen first hand how the government works for them.

As for the final comment, I never said they gave them diseases on purpose, but it happened. Thousands of native North and South Americans lost their lives due to measles, small pox etc. that they had never seen until the white man came here. I think only our Government gives people diseases on purpose to study the effects of it. Of course you will deny that ever happened too.

The only revenge the Indians have been able to get since the near Genocide has been the casinos. They are bleeding people out of their money so fast. lol

Never did understand the need to personally attack. Guess it is low self-esteem . I have certainly had more than my share -geesh can you Obama lovers please get a new script. You are so predictable and your words are ineffective.

I, of course, said farmers, settlers...indians didn't own the land. And your little Korean analogy is just ignorant. This was wide open prairie-thecnew frontier, undiscovered territory. The Indians migrated. They moved their tents constantly. Pretty sick and tired of liberals bashing our forefathers and this exceptional country. Love it or leave it.

Abram writes:

Wrencher: You mentioned the Indians owning the casinos; I know that the Indian tribes are about the only ones that can open a casino in the US, but there has been a little doubt in the back of my mind that they may be a front for the old Mob. I could be a way off base in my assumption, but it would take a lot of money and experience to run one of those things.
These are my own thoughts, but I will listen for the knock at the door.

Wasp writes:

The Indian Nation is plenty able to operate not only casinos but their other businesses too. They're buying everything that makes sense; an approach that our city investment gurus should adopt.

rud2u writes:

although, retired ,I want a part time job,but I got to learn Spanish first.

sunny writes:

in response to Moliere:

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Well this certainly explains why you believe all the illegals coming in waves in this country is a good thing.

outhousepoet writes:

Ever hear of the Sand Creek Massacre?

Or Col. John M. Chivington, a Methodist pastor?

outhousepoet writes:

Human beings were gathered peacefully....

....then killed and horribly mutilated the next day.

The point is, they never saw it coming.

Like the folks that went to work that day in the twin towers.

The imaginary lines that are drawn and called "borders" really are meaningless in the greater scheme.

outhousepoet writes:

in response to Moliere:

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They named a town after him, just south of the slaughter site in southeastern CO.

a religious zealot

and a very sick-minded monster

Eagle7 writes:

in response to Moliere:

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Moliere-please move to a country of your choice-any country but the US of A...take your POV with you. You act as if there were states, borders, land deeds etc. I know that people feel sorry for you-honestly-I do too-but why isn't your family getting you some help. Surely, even your fellow libs feel uneasy around you.

Eagle7 writes:

in response to Moliere:

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So , that gives you the right to trash the greatest nation ever formed? You are the type that I want to take by the shoulders, look you square in the eyes and say "What in the h-ell is the matter with you!"

I don't even know if I believe your story-you don't live in realityville.

I have NEVER been on government dole....

You?

You strike me as the entitled type-but I bet you will never admit it.

Sunny's lineage is rich in productive-heroic members of society. Shallow she is not.

Tell us your take of the herd walking ( and jetskiing) across our border. Or do you want to lick your wounds about the Washington Redskins name?

Wasp writes:

Moliere,
My great grandfather is buried not far from the Wichitas, as is my grandfather and most relatives. He was one of of those blue eyed devils you seem to be describing; although he enjoyed his native american wife enough to produce eight kids.In my youth, I cut wheat on the same land that the casino sits on in Devol. My mother was born to a Commanche mother and Irish father. I raised money once to get my best Indian friend out of jail in Lawton. I don't gamble, stink (in public) lie or cheat. My eyes are blue, just like my great grandfathers. While I agree with you on most things here, don't be so quick to group us all together. I only cross the river to visit a special friend and black diamond melons a little later.

Eagle7 writes:

in response to Moliere:

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Moliere, psssst ......come closer....sweetie pie-it wasn't a country then. Your people were following buffalo ....

wrencher writes:

in response to Eagle7:

Never did understand the need to personally attack. Guess it is low self-esteem . I have certainly had more than my share -geesh can you Obama lovers please get a new script. You are so predictable and your words are ineffective.

I, of course, said farmers, settlers...indians didn't own the land. And your little Korean analogy is just ignorant. This was wide open prairie-thecnew frontier, undiscovered territory. The Indians migrated. They moved their tents constantly. Pretty sick and tired of liberals bashing our forefathers and this exceptional country. Love it or leave it.

It wasn't undiscovered territory, only undiscovered by the white man. The analogy wasn't ignorant, it was simply stating what you and any other person, would do if some one came and tried to take their land and their livelihood.

And who are you to question my love for my country? I love my country as much as anyone and have lost relatives in wars defending this country so don't ever doubt my patriotism. I am not bashing our forefathers, simply stating a truth that you cant or wont accept. Our forefathers were not the angels you make them out to be. You can't change history, only what you believe about it. Unless of course you are on the Right wing school boards who are rewriting history and history books that we teach to our young students.

Eagle7 writes:

in response to Wasp:

Moliere,
My great grandfather is buried not far from the Wichitas, as is my grandfather and most relatives. He was one of of those blue eyed devils you seem to be describing; although he enjoyed his native american wife enough to produce eight kids.In my youth, I cut wheat on the same land that the casino sits on in Devol. My mother was born to a Commanche mother and Irish father. I raised money once to get my best Indian friend out of jail in Lawton. I don't gamble, stink (in public) lie or cheat. My eyes are blue, just like my great grandfathers. While I agree with you on most things here, don't be so quick to group us all together. I only cross the river to visit a special friend and black diamond melons a little later.

Wasp-you had me until... "I agree with on most things here"...

Bet you voted for Obama twice too! Hahahahaha! Have a good day bonding with Moliere.

Wasp writes:

Eagle, don't need it online. I lived in an all white town in my youth. That's why I like diversity so much. I've preferred the natural tan and hair to the bleached out Caucasian types for several years. The most beautiful woman I've ever seen is Apache. Before her I'd say Vietnamese. Probably doesn't meet your standards but what do you expect from a Democrat.

Eagle7 writes:

in response to Moliere:

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I will address this and I am through for the day with your derrangement syndrome. ...there is something seriously and dangerously wrong with you and I am sorry that you have no family or friends to help you. I really mean that.

The land that Palestine was given belonged to Israel. Prime Minister Sharon did it. We know what happened to him.

As far as the Redskins debacle-that is sad that we have a weak willed, wimpy wormy girly man society that they have to back door the owner of the REDSKINS- Not something to brag about .

BTW-why do we have thousands of illegals streaming across our borders. And what is the total of your monthly govt. dole?

Citizen1 writes:

in response to Texasczech63:

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Warning!!! Clicking on links that this unstable teabagger posts may harm your computer.

Wasp writes:

I forgot to mention the waitress at the taqueria.
Looking up Rosetta Stone for Spanish. Now back to the cut and paste cat fight.

Eagle7 writes:

BTW-Moliere-some people don't get "disability" checks every month from Uncle Sam-Besides , even if I didn't work why would I waste my time with someone like you. When you derail-as you always do-it is time to leave your company.

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